How to Stop Overthinking and Build a Business That Feels Aligned As A Female Entrepreneur With Michele Sennesael

What if the reason you feel stuck isn't because you're failing, but because you're overthinking everything and living out of alignment? In this episode of The Remote CEO Life Podcast, I’m  joined by coach and Belgium born photographer Michèle Sennesael to talk about what it really means to stop second-guessing yourself, rebuild your self-belief, and create a business and life that feels aligned - on your own terms.

After walking away from burnout in the fast-paced world of journalism, Michèle rebuilt her life through creativity, coaching and deep personal growth. Today, she helps female entrepreneurs transform self-doubt into presence, clarity and confidence.

This is an episode for anyone tired of performing, pleasing or pushing - and ready to start trusting themselves again.

In this episode we discuss:

- Why so many entrepreneurs leave 9–5 jobs only to recreate burnout
- The power of alignment over approval
- How to stop overthinking and trust your decisions
- Tools to rebuild self-belief when you feel stuck
- How sensitivity and intuition can become business strengths
- What true freedom looks like as a female entrepreneur

This conversation is your reminder to slow down, get present, and come back to yourself. Learn how to stop overthinking and start building a life and business that feels truly aligned on The Remote CEO Life Podcast.

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Chapters

• 0:00 From Photography to Purposeful Coaching
• 3:39 The Journey of Intuition and Self-Discovery
• 6:40 Overcoming Obstacles and Embracing Change
• 9:37 Finding Home and Personal Growth
• 12:40 Balancing Life, Business, and Self-Care
• 18:27 Trusting Yourself and Your Intuition
• 21:33 Sensitivity as a Strength
• 31:01 Defining True Freedom
• 37:33 Breaking Free from Societal Expectations
• 38:35 Rebuilding Life on Your Own Terms

Transcript

Sophie Biggerstaff (00:00)
What would happen if you stopped performing to what society wanted you to perform as and started really trusting yourself to make decisions based on your intuition in life and in business? Now that is what my guest today for the Remote CEO Life podcast, has been on. And in this episode, she shares how she went from burnout in working in journalism world to building a soulful business, boosting creativity, self-belief and freedom. Now listening to Michelle's story and having a conversation with Michelle in this episode really felt like I was looking at my

future self because we've been on very very similar journeys. She even said it after we stopped recording that she felt like she was looking back at a younger version of her. So in today's episode we're really going to get into the messy middle, the bold decisions and what it really takes to build a life that feels good to live. So Michelle is a coach, she's a photographer and a guide for ambitious women and creative souls who are ready to stop second-guessing themselves and build lives and businesses that feel free, aligned and authentic. She walked away from her job as a photographer

at Belgium's biggest newspaper and she rebuilt everything on her own terms. And not just once either, she rebuilt many times. And she went from teaching photography workshops in the Nicaragua to children to publishing her own book, Love, Faith and Courage. And now she helps other people break out of performance mode and build businesses that support their lives, not the other way around. So we are super aligned in our mission. Let's get into the conversation.

Sophie Biggerstaff (01:18)
Hey Michelle,

I know you're in Belgium right now, but I would love to have a chat a little bit about your story, your background, where you kind of come from and where you are today.

Michele (01:28)
yeah, I am a coach and photographer, but actually I didn't start with coaching. I started with photography. They loved my life. Like 17 years ago, I was working as a photo editor for the biggest newspaper in Belgium. And from the outside, you know, it looked really fancy and people applaud me for my job.

But I was just dying. ⁓ I didn't feel that ⁓ the blood was running to my veins and I couldn't proceed anymore. So 15 years ago, I decided to quit my job. And I started ⁓ teaching street children actually in Nicaragua photography workshops. And ⁓ it was just amazing. It was just the best decision I ever made. ⁓

My intuition really came into I felt really called to do this and actually there ⁓ I can say that this was the base of everything I do today. Yeah.

Sophie Biggerstaff (02:37)
that and what initially called you to Nicaragua, like what made you go over that way?

Michele (02:42)
Well, like I said, I'm ⁓ really a person who ⁓ strongly ⁓ is guided by my intuition and I knew I wanted to do something else. And actually, ⁓ in 2010, you might remember the earthquake in Haiti. ⁓ And that was the moment that I realized when I was sitting on my desk as a photojournalist, I realized, my gosh.

Sophie Biggerstaff (03:02)
Mmm, yes.

Michele (03:13)
the power of photographs is amazing because I saw the images coming in and you know because of those images tons of money got collected right? ⁓ So that was for me to do something positive with photography. Yeah, that's how it all started.

Sophie Biggerstaff (03:35)
I love that and I completely relate to having this dream job on paper. I worked for luxury fashion brands for 11 years and had this really prestigious career and did really well and was successful on paper or what society would do to be successful. You had the good job, you had the house, you had all of the things, but exactly what you just said, I was dying inside. wasn't...

It wasn't fulfilling me. wasn't bringing me any joy. I was waking up anxious every single day. I totally understand what you're saying there that you knew that there was more out there for you. And you ended up going on this amazing adventure to Nicaragua and with a real purpose behind it. So obviously you followed your intuition. It really, it really helped you guide you on the path that you're kind of on today. today, obviously, tell me a little bit about the work that you're doing specifically.

now.

Michele (04:29)
Well, right now I'm guiding ambitious women and creative souls and especially those who are, they look confident on the outside but inside they have to self doubt, they're a little shaky, they sabotage themselves, they overthink or they slightly burn out.

Sophie Biggerstaff (04:36)
you

Michele (04:55)
Why do I specifically ⁓ help these? Because that was me as well. And I help them to create actually into ⁓ self-confidence, freedom, clarity and create a life that they truly want, that they love actually.

Sophie Biggerstaff (05:16)
amazing, it's very aligned with the work that I do. also relayed that was also me. And, you know, I think you are best placed to teach when you have already gone through an experience yourself.

Michele (05:29)
Mm-hmm.

Sophie Biggerstaff (05:29)
So think

that's amazing that you've been able to use your previous experiences and bring that into the work that you are doing today. And obviously so many people come out of our nine to fives and are looking for freedom and we start building these businesses, but so many people and myself included built a business that actually is just another job that takes them back to how they were feeling back in their nine to five.

and gives them the self doubt and the burnout and all of the things. So how, why do you think that happens so often and how can we start breaking that cycle?

Michele (05:58)
you

Well, ⁓ it's not because, yeah, it's exactly what you say. It's not because you quit your nine to five that automatically you will be free. ⁓ You really have to, it all starts with yourself and you really have to change something in you. It's not about changing your boss, the coming on bus, it's changing how you operate. And ⁓ it really is about ⁓

Sophie Biggerstaff (06:08)
Hmm

Michele (06:34)
living in the presence and ⁓ really build your life and work from ⁓ yeah like really ⁓ aligned with who you are and yeah just being true to who you are sounds simple but it's not at all yeah it's been a long road for myself as well

Sophie Biggerstaff (06:59)
Tell me a little bit about your own experience with that. Cause I know obviously you said you're a very highly intuitive person. I also would do myself to be a very highly intuitive person. So talk to me a little bit about how you personally used your intuition to guide you through that phase of your life and how you've kind of overcome some of those obstacles.

Michele (07:17)
Well, ⁓ to give you an example on my path back in the days. Yeah, so I went to, ⁓ I started out in Nicaragua and I had no idea what the next step would be. ⁓ But I loved it and actually I fell in love with the people out there. And then I came back, had my own exhibitions. I went back to Nicaragua.

Sophie Biggerstaff (07:21)
Thank

Michele (07:45)
And actually, just by doing, taking one step, the other step revealed itself. ⁓ But I also noticed that ⁓ in beginning, really started out very smoothly. ⁓ It was as if ⁓ the universe was showing me, go on girl, you're on your way. ⁓ But then the more, I really believe that the more you get into it, ⁓

the deeper you go into your own path, ⁓ the more obstacles, ⁓ to grow you receive actually. ⁓ So yeah, I went back at some point ⁓ and that time not as a slash photographer, but more as a journalist. And I knew when I did that,

⁓ And I went back because ⁓ political reasons, everything should sit in Nicaragua. And I knew when I was doing it that I wasn't really doing the thing that really I had to do. ⁓ And I ended up being arrested. And I ended up being kicked out of the country. And that was the end of my story in Nicaragua. ⁓

Sophie Biggerstaff (09:07)
Wow, what happened?

Michele (09:09)
Yeah, well, I was one of the photographers who, ⁓ one of the journalists who got kicked out because ⁓ that's how it goes ⁓ when you shine a light on things that the government doesn't want to be seen. Well, that's what I do.

Sophie Biggerstaff (09:27)
Wow, that's wild.

Michele (09:29)
Yeah,

so, but you know, this was really, really hard. And I really had no idea. I thought, what is the next step now? I had no idea. So I did publish ⁓ an article in the newspapers to ⁓ let other journalists know what the possible outcome could be.

And because of doing that, ⁓ there was like a flood of information coming to me. Lots of people all over from Nicaragua, they were all reaching out. And funny enough, initial projects, I called my street children my heroes. And all of a sudden, ⁓ the people in Nicaragua called me their hero.

Sophie Biggerstaff (10:25)
Wow.

Michele (10:26)
roles got switched but I'm thanking me for standing up and speaking out. But yeah, nevertheless, I lost everything so I didn't know where to go. But one, I got really, I became friends with one person from Nicaragua and he lived in New York and he said, why don't you come to New York? And listening to my intuition, I felt like

this is the next step. It didn't make sense in my head. But I left Belgium at the time and I moved to New York and I started over again. And I eliminated everything, yeah, starting from scratch. And I ended up living and moving all over the world for eight years without just...

following my intuition one step after the other and yeah, it just worked out.

Sophie Biggerstaff (11:29)
Amazing. think so many people have this fear of starting over and changing things in their life. I personally think if something's not changing, there's something wrong. In my experience, it's like you're not necessarily something wrong, but you're probably very stagnant or a bit too comfortable in your situation if you're not growing anymore. And I think to grow changes part of that. And the fact that you were able to...

Michele (11:49)
Mm.

Sophie Biggerstaff (11:57)
go from an experience which was probably quite traumatic, getting arrested in Nicaragua and take that and trust that everything was just going to fall into place and follow the next step without it making much sense at the time which normally happens, yes.

You're like, but this doesn't make any sense. And then suddenly at some point down the line in a few months time, it's so much clearer and you can just see, ⁓ that's exactly why I had to go and do this. So obviously you went on this around the world. When was the point that you looked back and was like, ⁓ this is why I was meant to be here.

Michele (12:35)
Well, actually, it's ⁓ interesting. Yeah, good question. ⁓ Each time when you look back, the road makes sense, it's once you, it's very interesting because once you start that, walking that path, it's just a continuation of those moments. ⁓ I just come back from New York.

right now and because I ended my ⁓ journey in the States not intentionally ⁓ but I felt I just I just traveled to Belgium to visit my family at some point and ⁓ my mom got ill when I was here and an issue and I felt like I have to stay so ⁓

I sold everything from a distance and ⁓ I stayed in Belgium. And now I just ⁓ come back from New York and it was a great way to look back into the past and close the adventure of ⁓ the American adventure and step into, because you know, when I look back,

my traveling was actually coming home to myself. And the moment when I landed back in Belgium, it was time for me, I was in, I came home literally and physically. So yeah, it's a very interesting journey. Yeah.

Sophie Biggerstaff (14:12)
That is super interesting. always wonder if that will ever happen to me because I've been traveling since I was 21, on and off and then for the past four, nearly four and half years, full time. I always, but I have never wanted to live in the UK, honestly. And

Michele (14:28)
Bye.

Sophie Biggerstaff (14:29)
even as a kid I didn't really want to live in the UK so I always do wonder when I hear that story I'm like I wonder if I'll ever get to that point because I also agree that travel is you coming home to yourself and people always say you're running away from something you can't run away from yourself I'm sorry but you cannot and exactly what you mentioned earlier like

The entrepreneurship piece is also like one of the biggest self-development journeys that you can kind of go on and you're constantly going to be up-leveling yourself and growing and I think travel just escalates that like 10 times faster to be honest.

Michele (15:09)
hear you.

I hear you. And it's a very good point, Sophie. It's very interesting because I don't know if I'm gonna stay here, you know? It's not because I came back that I'm gonna stay here. ⁓ It might sound woo to others, but that's what I really believe. My soul just goes to a place. I got called to a place and that gives me something to grow ⁓ more rapidly.

And that's why I've been moving so many times. It's just insane. It was just insane. ⁓ But yeah, each place brought me something. And I lived in Spain before too. Just like you, I never thought Belgium is my place. And I mean, now I'm at peace with it, which is great. But... ⁓

Sophie Biggerstaff (16:05)
Yeah.

Michele (16:07)
Honestly, when you ask my brain, what's your favorite country? It's Spain. lived in Spain. So now I'm rather thinking of living half time in Belgium, half time in Spain. Yeah, you're in Barcelona and my heart jumps from joy just hearing Barcelona. So who knows? And I don't need to know where I'm going to end

Sophie Biggerstaff (16:24)
Yeah.

That's the beauty of it, isn't it? Like there's no such thing as... I don't think home is a place necessarily. I think home is like how you feel in yourself, how you feel in your environment, around other people, all of that. So exactly, you don't need to know. For now, you're meant to be there for the purpose. Obviously you went back for your mum, which is an amazing thing to do, and then stay there for... regardless of the situation, as long as it makes you feel good to be there. Until it doesn't, then you'll probably move on again. And exactly what you said, every place has

Michele (16:34)
Thank

Sophie Biggerstaff (17:00)
teaches you a lesson, gives you something, brings you a new addition to your life. I don't actually live in Spain, I live in Thailand but I'm currently in Europe and I was in the UK visiting my family and I was like I'm gonna go visit my friends in Spain. now we're here. And then I'll go back to Thailand very soon but yeah I agree with you. You don't need to know.

I'm fascinated by people that stay in one place their whole life honestly because I just can't imagine doing it but my parents have, they just live in their hometown their entire life so it's not like I've come from this family of travellers or like...

had any influence around me to do this, it's just come off my own back. Because my soul is being called, I completely agree with you, it's not where we're at all in my eyes, but your soul is being called to all of these different places and you are able to experience all these different things. And I don't think the lifestyle that we've probably both lived is for everybody. I don't think everybody's cut out for that. But there is a certain type of person that has to have all of these experiences. And then going back to the work that you do, I'm sure you bring in all of those experiences that you've had.

into the way that you are now coaching people and going through that. And naturally when you travel full time and

you do restart your life over and over again. There is an element of survival mode in there. you're constantly, if you're starting over constantly, like I've been a nomad for four years before I settled in Thailand this year. And every few weeks I was packing my bag up and having to find new friends and find them where to live and where's the wifi? What am going to eat here? All the things. And there is an element that you kind of stay in survival mode. So it is really nice when you're able to, now I have a

base in Thailand, it's really nice and like you've got now a in Belgium where you can just be like, okay, I've got my friends, I've got my home, I know where I'm getting the wifi, I know what I'm eating today, like all of these things and it brings you out of survival mode but for other people that are building businesses, traveling and doing all of those, having those experiences.

I can totally see why there is an element of burnout in there because it is very difficult to do all of those things and be present and have rest but also go and explore and do the adventures, run a business, have all of these things. It's so fast paced. How do you recommend to your clients that they balance so many of these different things that they're juggling and it might not necessarily be that they're travelling, they might just have a lot going on in their lives?

Michele (19:27)
Mm-hmm.

Sophie Biggerstaff (19:38)
How do you help people create that balance in their world?

Michele (19:42)
Well, ⁓ yeah, first of all, I, ⁓ yeah, we work on on the things that are blocking them and eliminate that. And yeah, like prioritize a couple of things in your life that just to create a steady anchor to you. ⁓ And that includes health, well,

⁓ Yeah, all the things right. ⁓ But also your thinking, which is big, and to be very present in the moment. When you're present in the moment, it doesn't matter where you are. ⁓ You're not in the past, you're not in the future, but really here now, then you're very, very strong in your mind. And then it's very easy to connect to who you are. ⁓ And also, ⁓

Yeah, no matter what happens then, you don't get out of your center. You really need to be balanced and centered. And especially now, even if you don't move around, there's so much going on in the world. And if you ⁓ don't have the basics, yeah, it's gonna be a mess. And then it's very easy to start overthinking and you've got to...

I teach them actually to learn to fall back on themselves and trust themselves 100%. And that is the basic. Like really trust yourself.

Sophie Biggerstaff (21:20)
I agree.

because at end of the day, we are the most trustworthy person to ourselves. And we, as long as we can learn how to show up for ourselves. How do you teach people to build that trust? Because I think there's, there's so, because of the way the world works and the way we build relationships with people, there's so many opportunities for us to lose trust in our own decisions. If something goes wrong or we thought something and then it turned out to be something else. How do you teach people to come back and be like, okay, this is, this is how you can actually trust that.

what your intuition is saying is true.

Michele (21:54)
Well, a very easy thing, a very easy tool ⁓ is to start with is really to slow, slowing down is key. Slowing down is key for everything. ⁓ And really slowing down and very easy is coming to yourself, just like we're sitting right now, just sit in your chair, ⁓ straight back.

with your feet on the ground and really take a deep breath. And then really before you take a...

any decision, ask yourself, is this, how does that feel? How does that feel? Because to me, embodiment is really important to get out of your head. And I really teach them to learn to use their body, not their heads. Because your body always speaks, your body knows the answers. And the question is, are you listening? So just close your eyes, take a deep breath and then

feel ⁓ even put your hand on your heart, another one on your belly and then feel is that ⁓ putting me into alignment or is that gonna disrupt everything. That on itself is just the first step. Yeah, it doesn't take a lot of time. ⁓ And yeah, I hand out lots of tools like this to really connect to who you are.

Sophie Biggerstaff (23:30)
Yeah, I guess you have to get quiet for it to even speak to you, right? So to just get back into that stillness, get back into your body, get back into presence is a really important way to then be able to hear it. And how do you personally or teach other people to determine between like your head and your gut feeling, right? Like one thing I really struggle with for myself personally is I'm a very highly intuitive person, but...

I'm also a massive over thinker. So I really struggle sometimes between thinking, yeah, that's the right decision for me. But then my brain kicks in and the logic and fear and all of the other conditioning and programming that I've had over many years. How do you determine the difference between those two things?

Michele (24:14)
⁓ yeah, well.

For example, I'm gonna give you an example that just happened not too long ago in my personal life. ⁓ I had a proposal of someone, my yoga teacher actually, she wanted to collaborate with me. yeah, immediately my ego was flattered, to be honest, and I was like, we're gonna collaborate.

But not everything that comes on your path ⁓ is something that is for you. So initially I really, yeah, I thought, let's do this. But I just slowed down, slowed down and I let it land. That's what works for me, not just reacting, but just taking a step back.

and let it just be there and journaling about it helps me a lot. ⁓ And I realized this is not the person that I really have to work with. Although it seems like it's a huge opportunity to have more clients, more visibility.

But that's not always true. ⁓ That's your ego. Your ego that tells you that. Because the chatter in your mind is when you're changing something, your ego's like, hey, hey, we're going to do this. ⁓ We've always worked like that. But yeah, ⁓ is that really true? That is a really good question to ask yourself.

Is that really true? What do I want now? Is this what I really need? So asking those questions will give you ⁓ an answer. Are you overthinking or are you listening to your gut? Because are you making a story out of it or is this what you really need to do?

Sophie Biggerstaff (26:18)
Yeah.

I think when we're naturally as life is in these fast-paced environments we're making decisions very quickly when opportunities like that come along it can be really easy just to jump into them and say yes just for the sake of the experience and I don't know if you've ever read the book The Surrender Experiment by Mark Weisinger, okay so I read that not that long ago and I

Michele (26:45)
Mm-hmm. I did.

Sophie Biggerstaff (26:51)
made the mistake of thinking, oh, okay, he's just saying yes to all of these things. I'm gonna try that. So I went and took his theory of just saying yes and surrendering to whatever. And I can't even remember what happened now, but something happened and I was like,

hold on a minute. I made that decision Really quickly to say yes, I didn't sit and think about it. I just went all in because someone offered me It was obviously an ego thing.

Afterwards I reflected and I was like if I'd have just sat meditated thought about this journal done it for five minutes There's no way I would have done that

So I completely understand ⁓ that situation and I love that you took the time to step back but I think the mistake that so many of us make is like we just think everything's urgent because we now live on such a fast-paced world and we can scroll and get access to everything that we want in the world. We think that that's the same in our 3D world as well and it's not and it's so hard sometimes to be able to tell yourself, give yourself permission to slow down because we've been conditioned.

to go 100 miles an hour, but it's super, super important for so many different reasons, particularly when it comes to things where you are gonna be partnering with somebody else.

Michele (28:02)
Yeah,

yeah, I totally agree and it's really important to, yeah, to really, I think it's also about making a commitment to yourself not to fall into the trap to... ⁓

organize your life ⁓ to please others, but really live for yourself.

And it might sound really ⁓ egocentric for many people, but if you don't live for yourself, you can't live for others. That's just the way it works. ⁓ So you really have to ⁓ live for yourself. And from that state, you can give to others. And from that state, will have, it will be reflecting your business as well. So that means also ⁓ saying, okay, this is time to rest. This is time to do this. ⁓

This is time to collaborate. This is a time to start something new, to try something new, not to be afraid of that. And just as you grow and evolve, ⁓ letting your business, ⁓ not being afraid of being flexible in your life, ⁓

You know, I believe we are just nature and there's no tree that is like, okay, it's raining right now. ⁓ I'm just gonna collapse because it's raining, can't have it or it's winter. I'm not gonna drop my leaves. Nature is adjusting all the time and so should we, yeah.

Sophie Biggerstaff (29:52)
Yeah, I agree. fully agree. My old business partner always says we have to treat ourselves like plants because we are a plant. need to be fed, watered and in the right environment to get all of the nutrients that we need to be able to grow and thrive in our environment. So I fully agree. We are part of nature. We need to treat ourselves like part of it as well.

And something that you mentioned in the form that you fill in, obviously, to tell me a bit more about you is that you use sensitivity as a compass instead of a floor. Talk to me a little bit about that.

Michele (30:24)
Well, think many of... Like, times are changing right now. We lived in a world where everything was very masculine, ⁓ very driven from the head, and that is the thing that is changing. Now it's more the feminine part of us, and the feminine part is in everyone. In a guy and in a...

a woman and a man. We all have both.

⁓ And that's what I believe is happening now. It's not working that way anymore, just simply the masculine way. ⁓ So we have to develop the feminine part. And ⁓ that part, in my case, ⁓ I'm a sensitive, I'm a deep feeler. I would rather say I'm a deep feeler than I've always been. And that helped me a lot.

ways but also ⁓ it was intimidating. So now I really believe ⁓ working on that I really believe that your ⁓ empathic feelings, your senses are crucial. Crucial to build a life and business aligned with who you are because ⁓ yeah you

You don't think just with your brain, but with your whole body. You feel it, you taste it, you... everything. So it's complete. And it's about trusting all those things that come forth of it.

Sophie Biggerstaff (32:10)
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I fully agree. I my deep feeler and it's a blessing and a curse at the same time. So I fully understand everything that you've said there and really appreciate you sharing everything that you've shared today. Before we kind of wrap up and close the session, I would love to hear your version of what freedom means for you.

Michele (32:31)
Well, freedom for me, ultimate freedom is making no compromises and just being you 100%. And ⁓ just being so true to who you are and let that reflect in your life, in your business. Yeah, that's true freedom for me.

Sophie Biggerstaff (32:54)
I love that. Fully

agree that ties into everything that I do. I love to help people actually figure out what it is that they are trying to achieve from their life and then build a business around their life rather than try and do it the other way around, which works maybe in the short term, but probably not in the long term. So fully agree with that. It's all about like really tuning into what you want and making it happen for yourself and advocating for yourself. So I love that. Thanks so much for sharing everything you share today, your stories and everything else around.

intuition and trusting and sensitivity I loved all of it really resonate with your own journey it's very similar to mine so yeah I'm excited to hear like about what happens next for you tell us a little bit more about the work that you're currently doing and how people could potentially work with you

Michele (33:42)
Well, ⁓ like I mentioned before, I really work with ambitious women and creative souls and I help them to turn down the self-doubt, the overthinking, the questioning, your second guessing, and really step into a life and business that is aligned, authentic and feels free.

I, like I mentioned before, I initially started out as a photographer, but, and then I transitioned into coaching, but I do combine both still. One of my biggest moments was being afraid to be seen, and that's where my camera comes in. So I...

Occasionally when it works, depends on the sessions, ⁓ I bring in my camera and take pictures. But I also ⁓ take pictures of people like coaching, ⁓ portraits, ⁓ embodied portraits where I combine everything in the coaching, but then you have...

something something ⁓

[ESAEL.com](http://esael.com/) and they can find me on LinkedIn, clicking my name and ⁓ Instagram, thing. So yeah, thank you so much for having me, Sophie. It's always amazing to talk to a like-minded soul, so wonderful to have this conversation.